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Yakhobian
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 Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: ARIA The ORIGINATION Episode 02 |
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After much waiting, it's out! ARIA The ORIGINATION episode 2!
Yes, we've taken a long time, but we hope you all understand that the lives of our staff can't take back seat to fansubbing.
As such, there have been some delays, but we're slowly gathering a bit of momentum so hopefully you won't have to wait so long for the next one.
I think I say that every time, but I do mean it. Honestly! 
So here we go again, with episode 2. Enjoy! 
[CrystalNova]ARIA_The_ORIGINATION_-_02_[701D79A3].mkv (150MB)
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dashno
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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<-- happy
Thanks |
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silverfire
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| 2nd pass results wrote: | avis [info]: 768x432 @ 29.97 fps (44502 frames)
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 SSE3 3DNow!
x264 [info]: slice I:297 Avg QP:16.30 size: 43827 0:00:00
x264 [info]: slice P:17147 Avg QP:17.72 size: 5142
x264 [info]: slice B:27058 Avg QP:19.79 size: 1069
x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 31.2% 0.0% 68.8%
x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 2.3% 0.0% 1.6% P16..4: 39.4% 5.1% 2.6% 0.3% 0.2% skip:48.5%
x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 0.1% 0.0% 0.0% B16..8: 18.2% 0.5% 1.5% direct: 1.6% skip:78.2%
x264 [info]: direct mvs spatial:87.5% temporal:12.5%
x264 [info]: ref P 74.3% 11.1% 6.2% 3.0% 2.6% 2.8%
x264 [info]: ref B 77.0% 12.1% 5.0% 2.5% 1.9% 1.5%
x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9923048
x264 [info]: kb/s:701.0
encoded 44502 frames, 22.77 fps, 701.08 kb/s |
For any of the doubters out there who might think 150MB isn't entirely doable 
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genimac
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Same as dashno: happy and thanks 
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Kraco
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Jolly good, jolly good. It was nice to watch an episode of Aria.
I only hope they would have told a bit more about the old madam, seeing how she was so central to the plot.
Also, it surprised me the places Akari showed seemed to be new to Aika and Alice - aren't they always training together? You would think somebody like Akari couldn't have kept any great places a secret from them. She isn't really a very jealous, secretive and introverted person.
| silverfire wrote: | | For any of the doubters out there who might think 150MB isn't entirely doable |
Although those fancy numbers tell me absolutely nothing, I don't doubt your words. However, don't let getting the file size down to ever become some sort of a godly goal for you. Even if you proved it doesn't mean lower quality in practice, people will get suspicious if it gets any smaller than this.
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silverfire
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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You should see my 70MB encode
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dashno
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| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| Kraco wrote: | I only hope they would have told a bit more about the old madam, seeing how she was so central to the plot.
Also, it surprised me the places Akari showed seemed to be new to Aika and Alice - aren't they always training together? You would think somebody like Akari couldn't have kept any great places a secret from them. She isn't really a very jealous, secretive and introverted person. |
Probably the same as how Akari seems to know many more people than either Aika or Alice. Especially considering that she is from man home and not AQUA. Also, it would have been nice to have known a bit more about the lady, particularly why she decided to book with Akari since Alicia didn't seem to know her.
As the video pans down... there always seems to be a slight flicker or something out of sync with it... could more MB's help the cause? |
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silverfire
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| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| dashno wrote: | | As the video pans down... there always seems to be a slight flicker or something out of sync with it... could more MB's help the cause? |
I don't see it :X
If your computer is barely capable of playing h264, then that's the issue - when you have pans, there's tons of motion, which pushes the bitrate (and the data that your computer has to decode) a lot higher than what's normally required, which means that if your CPU is barely up to the task for most frames, pans would make it stumble.
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Maniac
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| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| silverfire wrote: | | 2nd pass results wrote: | avis [info]: 768x432 @ 29.97 fps (44502 frames)
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 SSE3 3DNow!
x264 [info]: slice I:297 Avg QP:16.30 size: 43827 0:00:00
x264 [info]: slice P:17147 Avg QP:17.72 size: 5142
x264 [info]: slice B:27058 Avg QP:19.79 size: 1069
x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 31.2% 0.0% 68.8%
x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 2.3% 0.0% 1.6% P16..4: 39.4% 5.1% 2.6% 0.3% 0.2% skip:48.5%
x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 0.1% 0.0% 0.0% B16..8: 18.2% 0.5% 1.5% direct: 1.6% skip:78.2%
x264 [info]: direct mvs spatial:87.5% temporal:12.5%
x264 [info]: ref P 74.3% 11.1% 6.2% 3.0% 2.6% 2.8%
x264 [info]: ref B 77.0% 12.1% 5.0% 2.5% 1.9% 1.5%
x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9923048
x264 [info]: kb/s:701.0
encoded 44502 frames, 22.77 fps, 701.08 kb/s |
For any of the doubters out there who might think 150MB isn't entirely doable |
who could you possibly be referring to? 
Thanks for the release!
| silverfire wrote: | | dashno wrote: | | As the video pans down... there always seems to be a slight flicker or something out of sync with it... could more MB's help the cause? |
I don't see it :X
If your computer is barely capable of playing h264, then that's the issue - when you have pans, there's tons of motion, which pushes the bitrate (and the data that your computer has to decode) a lot higher than what's normally required, which means that if your CPU is barely up to the task for most frames, pans would make it stumble. |
in regards to power required to play h264, my old PIII 1.0 GHz laptop using FFDshow with postprocessing disabled can play most 140 MB 24 minute h264 files (not sure about 150 MB - never tried it), with coreavc the same machine can hande 170 MB h264 files (again all postprocessing - deblocking - disabled).
IIRC these were 640x480 or 704x396 resolution videos.
You'd have to have a pretty weak machine to have trouble playing these aria episodes.... |
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silverfire
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| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Having deblocking off makes encoders like me cry tears of blood.
H264 is designed so that deblocking an important part of decoding. If you turn deblocking off, you might as well go back to XviD.
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dashno
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| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Ok let's see, I have a core2quad @ 2.6GHZ with 3 Gigs of RAM and am using media player classic with cccp. I get the same issue on my Pentium D, celeron etc as well but both play h264 just fine. I don't disable anything and install the default for mpc but this deblocking, I didn't notice it in any of the option panels. Where do I check? I mean it can't be processing power as it never takes up more then 5%.
I was wondering, could it just be the source? I mean it's smooth but just seems to skip a couple of frames which makes it look jumpy.
I think this is the box for post processing, is there anything I need to change. |
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Maniac
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| silverfire wrote: | Having deblocking off makes encoders like me cry tears of blood.
H264 is designed so that deblocking an important part of decoding. If you turn deblocking off, you might as well go back to XviD. |
when I want to watch on my laptop I don't have much choice, lol (I rarely use it to watch though).
dashno, you need to check the postprocessing box on the left menu region or the box at the top left if you want postprocessing enabled.
and silverfire... this is probably something you can answer... of the extra options on that page... such as processing strength, accurate deblocking, etc... which will result in the highest quality video? I would assume there is such a thing as overprocessing so I normally leave my settings as his are right now (just with postprocessing enabled...). |
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dashno
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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I have been playing around with the settings but I haven't seen any difference. To be honest could just be Vista's problem. Should have kept Xp.  |
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silverfire
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't know a thing about the settings on that page :X
Personally, I shelled out the money for CoreAVC, but there's a certain Swedish harbor that can give aid you should you choose otherwise.
libavcodec has gotten quite a bit faster in the months since, but I believe CoreAVC is still in the double digits of how much percent faster it is compared to libavcodec. Worth a shot if your box is shitting bricks.
Oh and Vista can lick some salty horse nuts.
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dashno
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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lol
I have coreAVC but I figured that was only needed on old computers. Ehh not like a couple of frames matter anyways but maybe I'll try it later.
Although you're mistaken, Vista doesn't lick salty horse nuts; Vista is salty horse nuts.  |
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